Showing posts with label Turin. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Turin. Show all posts

Sunday, 9 October 2011

Be Very Qwiet, I am Hunting Tolkienian Woodwoses

This week in The Mythgard Institute's Tolkien and the Epic course, Wotan has been part of an incredible experience of exploring the Finnish national poem The Kalevala, Tolkien's earliest work on his version of the Kullervo story and then Tolkien's transformation of this story into his own secondary world cycle of Turin Turambar. Our guide through this exploration has been the famous Tolkien scholar and one of my favorite writers on Tolkien - Dr Verlyn Flieger - who I am very excited to hear will be taking part in future Mythgard Institute courses - spring enrollment is now open for two excellent courses

Wotan has a long list of ideas to explore from these two weeks of lectures (and for Wotan these resulted in very late night but very well worth it web moots!).

One item that jumped out at me as I was re-reading The Children of Hurin (CoH)was the inclusion of an interesting word seemingly taken from Tolkien's primary word academic work and put into his secondary one. In the The Children of Hurin, when the hapless Turin is staying in Doriath he is taunted by an Elf named Saeros and Turin hurls a drinking vessel at him. Then Saeros says

"How long shall we harbour this woodwose? Who rules here tonight? the King's law is heavy upon those who hurt his liegers in the hall....Outside the hall I can answer you, Woodwose!" (CoH, p.88)

There has been some really good work on the word and meaning of "woodwose" especially in Dr T.A. Shippey's Road to Middle Earth and on a recent excellent blog post by Jason Fisher

What interests Wotan is WHEN this word might have found its way into Tolkien's secondary world and why?

Tolkien's earliest professional encounter with the word probably came with his work in the 1920's on the late 14th century alliterative poem Sir Gawain and the Green Knight which he worked with E.V. Gordon on publishing as a Middle English Text for students with notes and glossary while he was teaching at Leeds in 1923-1925 (finally being published by Oxford University Press in 1925).

In the second passus of the poem Sir Gawain travels to find the Green Chapel and encounters several mythical and real beasts including the wildmen of the wood

"Sumwhyle wyth wormez he werrez, and with wolues als,
Sumwhyle wyth wodwos, þat woned in þe knarrez,
Boþe wyth bullez and berez, and borez oþerquyle,
And etaynez, þat hym anelede of þe heȝe felle;

Sometimes he fights with dragons and sometimes with fierce wolves
Sometimes with woodwose that haunted the mountains
Both with bulls and bears and occasionally a boar
And giants chased him through the fells (my translation)

Interestingly the same term is found in another Middle English alliterative romance - The wars of Alexander translated chiefly from the Historia Alexander di Magni de preliis by Leo Archpresbyter in the 10th century.

Wroȝt full of wodwose → · & oþer wild bestis;
And þan him hiȝtild his hede · & had on a Mitre,
Was forgid all of fyne gold · & fret full of perrils,

Although in this case the editor of the text Rev Walter W. Skeat glosses the word as faunus or Silvanus giving it a more classical meaning (which would make sense for a romance about Alexander the Great.

Turning back to the Turin cycle - the actual use of the word "woodwose" is not evident in any of the earlier versions of the Turn story.

Tolkien evolved the germ of the Turin story from his work on the Kalevala's Kullervo story - first developing his own version of the Kullervo tale with original names (and evidence of early Qenya) and then using some of the themes in an original story around the hapless Turin (one of the great legendary cycles of Tolkien's complete legendarium)

The earliest versions of this key scene in Turin's life (it causes him to become an outlaw which sets the whole doom of his life in motion) as found in The Book of Lost Tales (Turambar and The Foaloke) from 1918-1919 and in the alliterative poem The Lay of the Children of Hurin all seem to follow a similar narrative pattern. Tolkien would have worked on the alliterative poem (published in volume three of The History of Middle Earth) while he was teaching at Leeds (1920-1925), at the same time as he was working with Gordon on the Middle English text of Sir Gawain. In these early versions of the Turin story, The offending Elf is not the later Saeros but Orgof - who is described in The Lay as as "of the ancient race that was lost in the lands where the long marches from the quiet waters of Cuivienen were made in mirk of the midworld's gloom" (Lays, p.18) - so is Orgof an Avari? (but I digress). Orgof taunts Turin and Turin retaliates by throwing a large drinking vessel at Orgof who is struck by it and falls to the floor dead.

In the alliterative poem Turin says:

"Thou fool, he said, fill thy mouth therewith and to me no further thus witless prate by wine bemused and he fell backward and heavy his head there hit upon the stone...." (Lays, p.19)

This story pattern continued through Tolkien's prose Sketch of the Mythology (1927) and the 1930's The Quenta (Qenta Noldorinwa). In the Earliest Annals of Beleriand the date of 184 is given for "Turin slays Orgof, kinsman of the Royal House, and flees from Thingol's court. In the Later Annals of Beleriand the same basic story event is given.

We then have the period when Tolkien turned his attention to the great matter of the second and third ages culminating in the great works of The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings (in which Elrond refers to Turin as a great elf friend of old).

According to Hammond and Scull's J.R.R. Tolkien Companion and Guide regarding Tolkien and Sir Gawain and the Green Knight

"Sir Gawain became a set text on the Oxford and English School in 1947, and every two years from 1946 Tolkien gave a series of lectures about it, usually spread across two or three terms. The number of lectures in the course increased over the years in 1956-7. During this time Tolkien also supervised or examined several B.Litt theses on various Arthurian texts or topics, including two on Sir Gawain.' (Hammond and Scull v.2, p. 924)

In addition to this in 1952-3 Tolkien was chosen to give the WP Ker lecture in Glasgow and on 15 April 1953 he gave this lecture on, you guessed it, Sir Gawain and the Green Knight to 300 attenders (and later published in J.R.R. Tolkien The Monster and the Critics)

Turning back to Turin, the first post LOTR Turin mention we have is in The Gray Annals and here the story of Orgof being killed by Turin with a drinking cup persists (War of the Jewels, p. 81)

But this treatment starts to change in the next major work Tolkien did on the early part of the Turin cycle and the scene with Turin and Orgof/Saeros - this appears in a 12 page typescript which in HOME's War of the Jewels Christopher Tolkien describes as "a 12 page typed manuscript composed ab initio by my father and bearing the title "Here begins the the Tale of the Children of Hurin, Narn i Chin Hurin, which Dirhaval wrote" and what follows is the story that first appeared in Unfinished Tales and then in the later The Children of Hurin. Hammond and Scull indicate this work is from the late 1950's.

There are two interesting developments here. First the introductory note to the Narn now indicates that this work was the tale of a man named Dirhaval (a name possibly meaning Star Watcher -more work to be done here) of the Havens which he wrote during the time of Earendel. Dirhaval is said to come from the House of Hador and dwelt at the havens of Sirion where he gathered together tales from eyewitnesses. Tolkien also states "The lay was all that Dirhaval ever made, but it was prized by the Eldar for Dirhaval used the Grey-Elven tounge in which he had great skill. He used the that mode of Elvish verse which is (long space left in typescript - later to be filled by Minlamad thent) which was of old proper to the Narn, but though this verse mode is not unlike the verse of the English, I have rendered it in prose, judging my skill to be at once scop and walhstod." (War of Jewels, p.312). A note indicates that "walhstod' is Old English for interpreter.

A bit further along, Tolkien also says "I have not added to Dirhavals tale, nor omitted from it anything he told, neither have I changed the order of the history.

The second major change is the narrative of the story of the early Turin story which is now represented as being part of Dirhaval's Narn. Orgof has now become Saeros (possibly in Sindarin this means "bitter rain" - good name for a baddie) and the story arc has now been significantly expanded

  • Saeros taunts Turin at the table
  • Turin takes up a heavy drinking vessel and throws it at Saeros
  • Saeros falls backward with great hurt (but does not die)
  • Turin draws his sword but Mablung the Hunter restrains him
  • Saeros spits blood and utters the woodwose lines
  • Turin leaves the hall - Saeros and Mablung have words
  • Next morning Saeros waylays Turin and attempts to kill him
  • Turin and Saeros fight
  • Turin throws Saeros to the ground and strips him
  • He lets Saeros go and chases him through the wood
  • Mablung and others see this and call it Orc Work
  • Saeros attempts to leap a great cleft but falls back with a cry and crashes on the rocks below
  • "Long will Mandos hold him"
Therefore in this expanded version of the story Tolkien creates more opportunity for Saeros to have a voice and it was in this development of the narrative that the opportunity arose to have Saeros come up with a pejorative word for Turin and Tolkien's use of the word 'woodwose' not only accomplishes this but also foreshadows the orc like behavoir Turin will adapt by chasing Saeros naked through the wood with his sword (truly the act of a wildman) as well as a later episode of someone leaping over a cliff (his doomed sister Nienor). As Dr Flieger also said in her talk it is due to this action of killing Orgof/Saeros that Turin does become a wildman of the wood by becoming an Outlaw and living with Gaurwaith (The Wolfmen of the Wood).

So perhaps Tolkien's increased primary world focus on Sir Gawain and the Green Knight during the time of developing and expanding the Turin cycle gave him the very word he was looking for to both brandish a nasty term at Turin and foreshadow both his later history and fate.

One last point - in the context of the secondary world - I wonder what the original word in Sindarin Dirhaval used which became rendered as the Anglo-Saxon wodwose. "Wildman of the Woods" in Sindarin would have been something like 'Adan alag en thewair' - so perhaps this is close to what Tolkien as walhstod saw - alas this is lost in the vestiges of real or feigned time.

Tolkien Works Cited

The Book of Lost Tales, Part Two, edited by Christopher Tolkien (New York: Random House, 1983)

The Lays of Beleriand, edited by Christopher Tolkien (New York; Random House, 1984)

The War of the Jewels, edited by Christopher Tolkien (New York: Random House, 2002)

The Monsters and the Critics and Other Essays, edited by Christopher Tolkien (London: George Allen & Unwin, 1983)

Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, edited by Christopher Tolkien (London: HarperCollins 1999)

The Children of Hurin edited by Christopher Tolkien (London, HarperCollins, 2007)

' "The Túrin Prose Fragment: An Analysis of a Rúmilian Document". In Vinyar Tengwar 37 (December 1995), (edited by Arden Smith) pp. 15-23

The Story of Kullervo and Essays on “The Kalevala” edited by Verlyn Flieger in Tolkien Studies Volume 7 (2010), p. 211-278


OTHER WORKS CITED

Hammond Wayne G & Scull, Christina The J.R.R. Tolkien Companion and Guide

(2 vols) .London: HarperCollins;




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Sunday, 15 July 2007

Turin and the Dragon - Lines 39-44 and another Tolkien language

Some time this weekend to resume work on the Sindarin translation of Turin and the Dragon - here are lines 39-44 -

Dan dur din aun Morgoth Bauglir
in na ruith um gwennen
u-sint*
Ethir din, hur um egor galu en golu din
u-aunant siniath en gardh
in gwaith en Golodhrim bant

but the triumph he turned to doubt
of Morgoth the evil whom mad wrath took
Nor spies sped him, nor spirits of evil,
nor his wealth of wisdom to win him tidings
whither the nation of the Gnomes was gone.

*u-sint: based on the verb _ista_ (know) and the _u_ not. I found a gloss on a German Sindarin site for the word _zweifel_ which is _trass_ but can not find any source for it (yet) in Tolkien.

Just when you thought you have read about all of the languages Tolkien developed comes a new one (for me) - and that is Mago/Magol which is mentioned in the notes to book two of The History of the Hobbit (excellent book). Mago/Magol was developed by Tolkien based on, according to the ELF panel, Hungarian. At one time he intended to have the orcs speak it but decided not to. ELF promises that his grammar and notes for Mago/Magol will be published in the future. In a great email Patrick Wayne sent in response on the Labengolmor list (#1012) he said the language would have the sound of Elves who lived in Budapest!! Should be interesting - but first Taliska (I hope)...over and out.

Thursday, 28 June 2007

Turin amd the Dragon - Lines 35-40

This will probably be the last post for a week as I will be taking the first part of my holiday to North Wales (The Grey Havens) probably with the History of the Hobbit vol 2 to read on the beach (or the floods based on what is currently happening in the UK).

An Turgon minol idh na ruith'oeol
ristant bad dane na chathel gael din
o ndakro
Elo sadh din lim tri hoth en-Udun
be thar ai dhanna pan dofn bo nand
vi ngardh bada hathel ann I aran hen gwaith aronoded
tunc dri lhedin mor ah emyn dofn
ed ist in guid dhin u-deli ned varn hae

For Turgon towering in terrible anger clove a pathway for himself with his pale sweet blade out of the slaughter Yes his swath was plain through the hosts of hell - like hay that lies all low on the lea where the long scythe goes. A countless company that king did lead through the darkened dales and drear mountains out of the ken of his foes and he comes no more into this tale.

Dw'i mynd wrth Nghymraeg!!!

Saturday, 23 June 2007

Turin and Glorund the Dragon (lines 18-30)

Just received the new issue of Vinyar Tengwar which includes some late 1960's work Tolkien did on the verb to be. Will report on in future posting. Here's a picture of Charlie - the warg that only licked!

Finally had a chance to return to my work on translating Tolkien's epic poem The Lay of Turin found in History of Middle Earth vol 3 into Classical Sindarin. Here are lines 18-30:

Ennas in orc-hoth, idh roeg emyn,
den na vedui vi nagor gaeol horthanner
na Vauglir gwenner dan cuin
dravant da i chir orthalia i chonin edain

Na rynd Bauglir vi emyn cernin
na Angband in ngethryd dholin
hain tyngir i gallon Dor Hithlum
Thalion Erithamrod, na cheron arn cyn din
dostol na dheloth haer vi gur in
na rhuith prestannen
ai i dur en-auth u-danc dad
Turgon, ion Finweg, pae adaer en-aran,
u-dhan i chin Feanor
in tain in miryn angul ah uireb

There in host on host the hill fiend Orcs
overbore him at last in the battle terrible
by the bidding of Bauglir bound him living
and pulled down the proudest of the princes of Men.
To Bauglir's halls in the hills builded
to the Hells of Iron and the hidden caverns
they haled the hero of Hitlum's land
Thalion Erithamrod, to their throned lord
whose breast was burst with a bitter hatred
and wroth he was that the wrack of war had not taken
Turgon ten times a king even Finweg's heir nor Feanor's children
makers of the magic and immortal gems.










(History of Middle Earth by J.R.R. Tolkien vol3 pages 5-6)

Thursday, 14 June 2007

Turin and the Dragon Continued

Took a couple of days to catch up on some excellent guides on the web about Sindarin. These are must reads for anyone who is crazy (ok passionate) enough to attempt trying to get into Tolkien's thought process and development of these art languages. Special thanks to Thorsten Renk's work on the Sindarin verb and the Rogues Guide to Sindarin Word Reconstruction. Also found a great online community on the web which has developed a wiki for Tolkien languages (I will be posting my work to this site as well to get comments)

Now moving forward with the translation of "Turin and Glorund the Dragon" with a new sense of purpose.

Here is the refined first 15 lines or so

Turin ion Hurin a Glorund i amlug
Alae! I amlug vallen e-Balan udun
i vaur en-eryn ardhon si pellen
i naeth Edain a nir in Edhil
thinniel hethu dad vaid glad
si naro ah i eneth annid
Niniel naer ah i eneth annur
Turin ion Thalion orthornen na amarth.
Nae! Hurin Thalion vi i hyth en auth orthornen
ir in gwaith fainhemmin in Edhelrim
gwathannen pain an gurth na dhelos uanui Delu-Morgoth
Parth dan esta Nirnaeth Arnediad estar aen na'waith
Ennas i chin in edain, erain a maethor, dregenner
u-vaethanner dan hain gwerianner na ugerth gwaith in Edhelrim
unan adan Thalion-Erithamrod
a conin din beren

(History of Middle Earth - Vol 3 page 5)

the line "were ruined" is rendered by the verb _gwatho_(Root WAH) - to stain or soil - closest I can find so far!

Next time - Hurin in the clutches of the that JR Ewing of the first age - Morgoth!

Well, time to watch the next intallment of the Cardiff singer of the world contest. I'll do more later with the current craze of Big Brother - wonder what a Big Brother would look like in Middle Earth (Day 3 - Gandalf and the Elrond are out in the garden while Treebeard has been in the diary room for 5 hours! Gollum is in the pool looking for something and the Witch King is still in bed!).

Namarie

Sunday, 10 June 2007

Turin and the Golden Dragon - Beginning Revised

Did some revision on opening translation thanks to the great comments from Matt - also launched me into an exploration of how to form the superlative in Sindarin which thanks to some great web resources led me back to one of the professor's own letters which clearly states "_an_ superlative or intensfying prefix (as in _Ancalima_exceedlingly bright Letter of JRRT page 278). So with this great help here is a revised translation of the first part of the poem - Turin and the Golden Dragon (HME vol 3 page 5)

Turin ion Hurin a Glorund i amlug

Ai! I amlug vallen en-Balan udun
i fuin on-eryn ardhon si pellen
in naeth Edain a nir in Edhil
thinniel hethu dad vaid glad
si naro a i eneth annid
en-Niniel naer a i eneth annur
en-Durin ion Thalion orthornen
Nae! Hurin Thalion vi i chyth auth orthornen
ir in gwaith fainchemmin en-Edhelrim
noner horn pain an ngurth na i dhelu naer en-Vorgoth
Parth dan esta aen na i'waith esta Nirnaeth Arnediad

Ennas i chin edain hador a hadron (1)
dregennir u-vaethanner dan in gwaith
en-Edhelrim na u-gerth gwerianner

(1) - great alliteration - but not Sindarin - needs work

need to work on "save that true man only Thalion Erithamrod and his thane like gods"



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